I’ve only spoken with Michael Dobbs once, on the telephone, and he seemed like a nice guy.
But, wow, is he being rude and dissmisive on the Washington Post website. It is this kind of ignorant arrogance that bothers the hell out of me.
Dobbs, in a feature called “Fact Checker,” expands his mandate to disagree at 9:28 with Obama’s judgment that the NPT “fell apart” under the Bush Administration.
Anywho, Dobbs decides to say that “things weren’t great under Clinton. It was under Clinton, after all, that India and Pakistan both tested nuclear weapons, which put a huge hole in the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.”
Now, that’s just silly. Apart from the fact that India and Pakistan aren’t members of the NPT, testing nuclear weapons didn’t put a “hole” in the treaty.
Daryl Kimball sent Dobbs a note, then Dobbs responded with this:
I am glad that the Obama camp is reading the Fact Checker at all hours of the night. I got several e-mails from Obama supporters well after midnight disputing my critique of the senator for blaming George W. Bush for allowing the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to “fall apart.” Here is a typical one, which landed at 1.39 a.m., from Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association.
Your post on Obama’s point about the erosion of the nonproliferation system under Bush misses the point and ignores the facts. India/Pak tested nukes in 1998, yes, but are not members of the NPT. Under Bush, Iran has advanced its nuclear program, [North Korea] has produced plutonium and tested a bomb, the 2006 NPT Review Conference was an utter failure due to lack of Bush admin leadership, and experts ranging from Kissinger to Nunn, to Hans Blix, to Mohammed El Baradei agree that the system is under tremendous strain now.
Well, ok, it’s true that Pakistan and India were not signatories to the 1968 non-proliferation treaty, so it is technically true that they did not violate their treaty obligations. In addition, India tested a small nuclear device in 1974. Nevertheless, the twin nuclear tests by India and then Pakistan in 1998 came as a huge shock to the Clinton administration, and did much to undermine the international non-proliferation norms established by the treaty. Once those two countries went nuclear, other countries lost the incentive to abide by the treaty. Many experts would agree that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal will present the single greatest national security threat to the United States over the next few years, given the political instability in that country.
You can’t blame Bush for everything, much as some people would like to do so.
What a pathetic answer!
First, I am pretty sure that Daryl is not associated with the Obama campaign. So, Dobbs is simply making up a fact about Daryl’s affiliation to undercut his credibility. Of course, Dobbs also writes for Hustler. (Okay, I just made that up. See how unfair it is?)
Second, Dobbs asserts that “Once [India and Pakistan] went nuclear, other countries lost the incentive to abide by the treaty.” Really? Lost their incentive? Okay, which countries — name them! — stopped abiding by NPT as a consequence of tests?
Dobbs doesn’t really make any effort to address the core of Daryl’s argument, which is that the Clinton Administration secured the indefinite extension of the NPT in 1995 and a successful review conference in 2000. By contrast, the 2005 NPT review conference was a total meltdown, as even Bush Administration officials will admit over beers.
There is no perfect way to objectively measure the health of the NPT regime, although successful review conferences and the number of nuclear states are indicators. On both of those accounts, the Bush Administration has fared worse than the Clinton Administration.
As it happens, I actually disagree that the NPT “fell apart” under the Bush Administration, though I do think Bush & co. undermined the regime in significant and dangerous ways. The problem is that Dobbs decided to expand his “fact check” mandate to matters where facts are few and causality is not clear cut. His efforts to excuse his inexcusable post only make him look more foolish.

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