Jeffrey LewisDPRK Armistice Parade

Greetings from Hiroshima, Japan — or, as I like to say, within range of a Nodong.

As you can see, North Korea appears to have paraded a Hwaseong-13 (KN-08) without the camouflage we saw last time.  The Scuds got a makeover, too.  This is now consistent with previous parade appearance of  Nodongs and Musudans.

I am still looking for decent images of the DPRK parade.  There seems to be a bunch of really interesting stuff.

For example: Who the hell are these guys?

And WTF is this:

 

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  1. Tal Inbar (History)
    • Jeffrey (History)

      You are the best!

    • bob (History)

      Thanks for the link to the hi-res shot.

      Is the RV real?

    • Anon2 (History)

      Note the interstage cones on the hires HS-13 shot have little or no paint.

  2. Juuso (History)

    I would assume those guys with “scary bags” are supposed to be demolition/suicide squad armed with SADM style man-portable nuclear weapon with them.

    • Ben D (History)

      Possibly Nuclear Attack First Responder Teams…

      Abstract
      Avoidance of downwind radioactive fallout exposure within the first few hours after a nuclear or radiological dispersal device detonation can save lives and minimize radiation exposure. First responders with awareness training can help to avoid prompt fatalities and excessive contamination or exposure following such a detonation. This paper outlines some of the critical components of the situational awareness and actions necessary to save lives and minimize radiation contamination and exposure.

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16010118

    • JO (History)

      The chestpacks look like repackaged DP-5B geiger counters. The probe tube is visible on the left side of the pack.

      Nice TEL. Nice missile too, a bit big but NK is doing what they can with what they have for sure. Not so keen about the third pic, but those are women on the tractors so some sort of second-line handwaving effort is going on.

    • FlamesInTheDesert (History)

      Video featuring the DP-5B geiger counter
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPMq95jXsw

    • p (History)

      North Korean Iron Man unit with less advanced Fission reactor modelled after the Stark Industries Arc Reactor.

      http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/36098/how-does-iron-mans-arc-reactor-work

    • ulankl (History)

      it should be SADM

    • ulankl (History)

      why should it be SADM?

      1. the place of them in the parade, behind them are missiles

      2. according to Rodong News, DPRK has already mastered the “mini nuclear device technology”, and Rodong News gave also the definition of “mini”, which is “about 15t yield”

      ( http://www.rodong.rep.kp/cn/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2013-05-21-0010&chAction=L )

    • ulankl (History)

      if DPRK made very low yield nuclear test, for example, SADM test with about 10-50t expected yield, is it possible for outsider to detect those tests ONLY via seismic wave?

      If outsider are not certain for very low yield SADM underground test detecting, then how many times did DPRK make nuclear tests on earth?

      I have no evidence, but I do think that W-54 similar technology should be possible for DPRK. After all, US started build W-54 in 1961, at that time, there was still no chips or CNC machine tools.

      according to Rodong News, DPRK “mini nucleear weapon” has roughly 15t yield, so 2 SADMS equals a B-52.

    • ulankl (History)
    • ulankl (History)

      one thing for sure, SADM is an important option for DPRK.

      I have no prove, but I am very sure that DPRK has SADM program.

    • John Schilling (History)

      1. A man-portable nuclear weapon would necessarily be a plutonium device, and would require approximately twice as much plutonium as a first-generation lightweight nuclear missile warhead. North Korea presently has no operational plutonium breeder reactors, and the largest credible estimate for their remaining plutonium inventory would support maybe 2-3 SADMs.

      2. Nuclear tests of less than 0.05 kiloton yield would not be detectable via seismic means, but it is probably not possible to reliably design devices of such yield without having test data in the first place. 0.05 kT is at a very steep part of the yield vs. compression curve; a slight undershoot gives you no nuclear yield at all, a slight overshoot gives you >>0.05 kT.

      3. If the Norks want to deploy two or three untested 0.05 kT SADMs instead of half a dozen multi-kiloton missile warheads of proven design, I’m good with that.

    • ulankl (History)

      @John Schilling

      thanx for your post, very interesting.

      rumors in china said that the DPRK nuclear technology is very special.

      according to such rumors, the implosion material is not TNT/RDX/HMX at all, but so-called “hydrogen alloy”, which is similar to “metallic hydrogen”. The energy of 1kg “hydrogen alloy” equals about 80MJ, roughly 20 times than TNT.

      The fission material is uranium deuteride, and the uranium is also not weapon class HEU, but 51% EU.

      The total weight of the device is below 30 kg.

      http://www.csndmc.ac.cn/nuclear/news.do?id=88&method=getNewsDetails

    • ulankl (History)

      btw., according to rumor, the weight of pit is only about 250g.

      “Nuclear tests of less than 0.05 kiloton yield would not be detectable via seismic means”, which implies that DPRK could have done much more nuclear tests than 3 times.

    • robert (History)

      the chest-pak’s that these cat’s are wearing are more or less a message to the citizenry that the DPRK can handle a nucUlar attack .

    • George William Herbert (History)

      Ulankl – Reports such as those are a clear indication that the website and its writers and their sources are to be ignored, not used as a reference or source.

      They have no technical validity.

    • ulankl (History)

      thanx for your reply.

      Although I visited also website of Carey Sublette, yet I am not a weapon designer, so I can not say anything on technical validity issue.

    • ulankl (History)

      on the other hand, the advanced primary is also very suitable for a SADM. For example, the primary of W87 meets with the size and weight requirement of SADM also very well.

      So the words of John Schilling likes “A man-portable nuclear weapon would necessarily be a plutonium device, and would require approximately twice as much plutonium as a first-generation lightweight nuclear missile warhead” is not conceivable.

    • ulankl (History)

      although I have not detailed data, yet I do believe that one can directly use the primary of W76 or W80 as a SADM.

      So far as I know, both of them do NOT “require approximately twice as much plutonium as a first-generation lightweight nuclear missile warhead”.

      Maybe the description of John Schilling is for W54, but does not apply to the primary of W76 for sure.

  3. Ben D (History)

    Great idea to keep productivity up,..farmer uses tractor for agricultural purposes while rocket launchers are kept in the barn, come the red alert and farmer hitches tractor to launcher trailer and off he goes to war…brilliant!

    • Ben D (History)

      Should have added /joke

    • FlamesInTheDesert (History)

      Why is that a joke?,the MLRS they were towing didnt look funny at all and I sure as hell would not want to be on the receiving end of a salvo from them.For a place like north korea which is more a military with a state than a state with a military having a lot of duel use systems makes very good sense
      http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/q9es.jpg/

    • Ben D (History)

      Because FlamesInTheDesert, the /joke tag was to inform naive readers not to take my productivity explanation seriously, it’s all about real war.

    • Anon2 (History)

      It looks like they are going to have a Rocket Tractor Pull!

  4. Magpie (History)

    1. A crack x-ray-machine brigade…

    …crack. Geddit?

    2. The latest in farming advances: Mk7 Medium Range Potato Artillery. Plants fields up to 4km away!

  5. Allen Thomson (History)

    Clearly someone in NK is a Charlie Stross fan.

    http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/toast/toast.html#coldwar

    Red Square, the May Day parade, 1962. This is the first time that the Soviet Union has publicly displayed weapons classified GOLD JULY BOOJUM. Here they are:

    Video clip

    Later in the same day. A seemingly endless stream of armour and soldiers marches across the square, turning the air grey with deisel fumes.

    Behind the tanks sprawl a formation of four low-loaders: huge tractors towing low-slung trailers, their load beds strapped down under olive-drab tarpaulins. Whatever is under them is uneven, a bit like a loaf of bread the size of a small house. The trucks have an escort of jeep-like vehicles on each side, armed soldiers sitting at attention in their backs.

    There are big five-pointed stars painted in silver on each tarpaulin, like outlines of stars.

    Voice-over

    These are live servitors under transient control. The vehicles towing them bear the insignia of the second Guards Engineering Brigade, a penal construction unit based in Bokhara and used for structural engineering assignments relating to nuclear installations in the Ukraine and Azerbaijan.

  6. Bradley Laing (History)

    —-I have a guess about the tractors: if the Pakistani Army ends up running the telephone system because all the civilian institutions are corrupt, who, in a police state, would have the responsibility for making sure some tractors work, when the leaders need tractors that work. The army and the police, of course.

  7. Jme (History)

    And WTF is this?

    Finally a verifiable photo of NK ‘dual-use’ technology!

    • Cameron (History)

      I was hoping that the DPRK was going to bring back Junkyard Wars.

      Today’s challenge: Build a mobile Katyusha

    • panterazero (History)

      Mobile Katyusha is easy, is only old Toyota pickup plus piece pipe. You have not heard of “technical?”

  8. Marius (History)
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