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Guest Interview

I’m here with occasional ACW contributor Chauncey Gardiner, who has consented to a rare interview.

MK: Chauncey, long time, no hear. What have you been up to?

CG: Weeding.

MK: That has to be a no-win proposition. Weeds propagate like crazy, and you have only two hands.

CG: You’re missing the point. Weeding isn’t about winning; it’s about not losing. Surely, you can relate to this.

MK: Not exactly. I like to win. And foundations are not thrilled with grant proposals to avoid losing.

CG: What about temporary victories?

MK: New fund-raising territory for me.

CG: Weeding is all about temporary victories. Without them, you lose. And with enough temporary victories, you can tip the scales in your favor.

MK: I’m listening.

CG: Big victories are rare and are never truly permanent. They have to be maintained. And if you can’t win big victories, hold your ground and methodically extend your perimeters.

MK: Thanks for the landscaping advice. Where are you going?

CG: Gotta run. The Japanese stilt grass is going to seed.

Michael Krepon

Writing on ACW 2009–2022

Michael Krepon is the co-founder of the Stimson Center and the author of Winning and Losing the Nuclear Peace: The Rise, Demise, and Revival of Arms Control. He was given a lifetime achievement award for non-governmental work to reduce nuclear dangers by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in 2015. He has worked in the executive and legislative branches of the U.S. Government, and taught as a professor of practice at the University of Virginia.

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