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Gallucci: What's Your F*cking Plan for North Korea, Then?

Scott Stossel in The Atlantic Monthly quotes Bob Gallucci on people who oppose negotiations with North Korea:

Gallucci, for his part, said he was “surprised at how surprised [Ken] Adelman was that we—those of us who favor negotiation—could end up in a position where we would favor the use of military force.” Gallucci was emphatic that we urgently have to try to negotiate, as a prelude to possible military action, and was frustrated that the Bush administration and some of the war-game principals were unwilling to recognize that. To put his frustration in context, he told me a story.

“When I came back with the Agreed Framework deal and tried to sell it,” he said, “I ran into the same people sitting around that table—the general to my right, Ken across from me. They hated the idea of trying to solve this problem with a negotiation.

And I said, ‘What’s your—pardon me—your fucking plan, then, if you don’t like this?’

‘We don’t like—’

I said, ‘Don’t tell me what you don’t like! Tell me how you’re going to stop the North Korean nuclear program.’

‘But we wouldn’t do it this way—’

‘Stop! What are you going to do?’

“I could never get a goddamn answer. What I got was ‘We wouldn’t negotiate.’ ”

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Full Disclosure: I used to work for Bob at APSIA.

Jeffrey Lewis

Writing on ACW 2004–2026

Dr. Jeffrey Lewis is the founding publisher of Arms Control Wonk.com. He is the Director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey. His also a non-resident affiliate at Stanford's Center for Security and International Cooperation and a Contributing Editor to Survival.

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